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Film & TV

interview


Angelina Jolie's Good Shepherd


Angelina talks to CraveOnline about her new film.



Angelina Jolie faces what may be her toughest role yet in The Good Shepherd. She plays the unloved wife of a government espionage worker and has to convince us that a man could leave her at home to hang out with other guys in suits. She still radiates even in a drunken rage, but that's nothing compared to her presence in real life. Her shiny auburn hair framed her perfect face and bright red lips as she answered our questions on the movie, life and love.
CraveOnline: You're such a strong willed woman. How could you relate to this token wife who just sits there drinking? 
Angelina Jolie: So much of that film for me was a study in that kind of restraint because I live in a time, we all do, where as 
a woman, I can say, "I'm leaving, I'm getting a divorce, you tell me what's going on" or even speaking in a manner that's much
harsher without it being the ugliest thing in the world. And she had to maintain a certain kind of composure, quiet decency,
just settle into that life. It was that time and the CIA, the idea of getting out was just impossible as a woman. So it was very
hard because everything instinctually in me was [the opposite].
CraveOnline: We don't understand why the guy doesn’t want to be home with you. How hard was it for you to play rejected and 
unloved?
Angelina: Well, I do have two divorces behind me. [laughs] But I'm still good friends with them, so it's still okay. But I think it's 
actually easier to play that kind of stuff when you do have a balanced home. Because I think if I did have alcoholism in my
personal life or my mother or somebody close to me, if I did have that experience, it might have been much more
uncomfortable to get in there. And that kind of relationship with a man, I've never had that in my life, because I've always
married artists, so they're always a very talkative and expressive bunch. So, no, it was just bizarre, but it was part of the
character which was interesting, because she did feel lost and she did feel trapped and confused, and so I did as well.
CraveOnline: Do you think some kind of deception is a necessary evil in any relationship? 
Angelina: No, I think quite the opposite is the only thing that works. I don't want to spend my life having to pretend to be 
somebody else. And I don't want the person next to me to have to pretend, ever. We have a long life ahead of us. So you
want to just be able to be who you are in every moment, and that's the only way you'll ever be truly happy anyway.
CraveOnline: How did you like seeing yourself aged in the film, and how will you age gracefully? 
Angelina: My mom is aging gracefully, so if I'm anything like my mother. She's lovely.  I love age on a face. I know in this 
business, there's not a lot of leverage for the way people have an opinion about how people should look, but I personally
love it, and I love to age in movies. I love to see my face old in different ways and I actually feel there's something very
earned so many different things and be rooted in so many different ways that it seems there's kind of a comfort to it. But
Clover was a little different because I hopefully will not break apart as she did, because she had these big yellow contacts
and yellow teeth. You may not have noticed it, but I had the alcohol age if you look closely with her. There are a lot of broken
capillaries and a lot of yellow. That wasn't looking in the mirror and saying, "I'll look like this." This is what I will look like if I
start drinking.

CraveOnline: Could you do any research on CIA wives?

Angelina: I didn't because most of the people they could all talk to were really the 
men in the CIA. And the women like Clover were kind of absent or had been quieted or moved to Arizona. One of them did 
actually. That's actually a true story, somebody's living there now. She's loosely based on a few people, but it was almost
impossible to talk to the women, and I think that the reality is that the women knew so little. There would be very little to talk
about. My choice was almost to really talk to nobody, really understand nothing and be trapped in this world where
sometimes De Niro's character would come in and I hadn't focused on exactly who he was in the script and exactly what he
did, and I didn't do my research, so he walked in and I wasn't really sure who he was. And that was kind of how I just stayed
in the dark.
CraveOnline: Have you ever encountered the CIA in your humanitarian activities? 
Angelina: That's such a huge question. I think that I've never been clearly aware of something specific, but I think certainly I 
have witnessed our foreign policy and witnessed the change in the perception of America's foreign policy in the last few
years. Every trip I take the feel has been different because of the changes we have made. And I'm sure the CIA has had a
hand in that.
CraveOnline: What changes?
Angelina: To be completely honest, I think about 5 years ago when I started traveling and I'd say I was American, everyone 
was very, very excited and thought it was the greatest thing in the world and the greatest place in the world. And now there's
a certain… you feel cautious, you feel that people are a bit not so joyful about that. They're questioning my country you know,
where people say things like, "It's extraordinary you're here because you're American," and that's not true to the American
people. The American people are very caring, generous people. That's been proven with the work every individual household
has done abroad and the charity they do and who we are as a people. But it's not what our government has represented in
the last few years, I think. So it's been difficult to go to places abroad and just see… I think we all know exactly what I'm
saying.
CraveOnline: Has your social activism made you want to do more serious movies? 
Angelina: No, I think it's important to just have fun and not take everything so seriously, because I think there's a big room for
entertainment in this world. That's most of the movies I go to with my kids. That's part of what we do. I'm not a politician. I am
just an actor, and just supposed to entertain and tell stories, so I remember that. But certainly when a film project comes
along like this one, or like Mighty Heart, the Mariane Pearl Story, they are ones that take a priority in my life and are ones that I
enjoy more in a different way and are a very different experience. But I think the thing right now that makes the big choice is
kind of how long is it shooting. I don't think I've shot more than seven weeks on a movie in two years. I need to make sure I
have time with my kids.
CraveOnline: Would you work with Brad again? 
Angelina: Who's going watch the children? 
CraveOnline: What new projects would you like to initiate?
Angelina: There are many different things. I will continue to work with refugees, and I will never shift focus from them 
because I think it's important, and it is where my heart lies. Cambodia, we just went back there and it's changed so much
over the years. It is now Millenium Village that Brad and I are supporting. It's also a 148,000 acres of protected forest, and it's
also many, many villagers, and it's huge. A huge, huge project, which is not what I intended. But it's wonderful, and I'm
learning a lot. But we're involved in many things, Brad's work in New Orleans. We're just trying to make sure we always stay
focused and because our temptation is to just, we hear something that's going on, and we want to get involved. We're
working together on AIDS orphans and passing some legislation for them on their behalf, because there's no one actually
fighting for them, so we've put together a group of people that will do exactly that. For Zahara as well we want to do something
in Ethiopia supporting an orphanage there but I think we will figure out something specific, just so Maddox will take over his
project, we want her to take over hers. So we have to figure out what that is.
CraveOnline: Does it ever bleed over into your film work? 
Angelina: Sometimes it does. I am interested in the art coming out of different countries. I'm starting to learn about different 
directors. Even Cambodia's having a big arts splurge now, and they're having new posters for their movies up, which they
never had a few years ago. I'm fascinated by supporting local artists which I'm sure will be little projects that will not make it
here any time soon, but we'll start to get to know their stories. We talked to people in India, Pakistan, their favorite plays, their
favorite pieces of literature.
CraveOnline: The media's always after you. How does it affect your life? 
Angelina: I've made a point to not let it change the way I live my life, other than I carefully plan my holidays or where we go, or 
where we stay or things like that, to try and ensure some kind of quality of life that's private and nice for the kids. But we
simply don't let it effect us. I think the only time it is hard when the kids want to go somewhere and I've had so many people
offer to take my children to Disneyland or places that I can't take them, and they don't understand how upsetting that is. To
take my kids trick or treating, things they assume I can't do. So we plan to find ways to do all of those things. And there are
worse problems.
CraveOnline: Can't you go incognito at Halloween? 
Angelina: I have. I was just going to do a mix of odd masks and things. This year we were in India, so we had this really odd 
celebration in the hotel. We just had candy and costumes sent up from the States, so he had a really big Afro and I had
dreadlocks. We were trying to explain to them what it was, but really we just had fun with dress up.
CraveOnline: You do so much, how do you manage everything?
Angelina: I plan a lot, obsessively. I'm very, very lucky. I love the different elements in my life and I love working abroad, and I 
love being with my kids and I love being with Brad, so this is the life I chose to have and I'd like to add many more children
and many more obstacles and many more things.


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